BTW, Bradford. I love that quote by Read M. Schuchardt. He's the guy who runs metaphilm.com, a site that all should come to know and love. I'd love to meet him in person (i've only emailed him), but i think he's probably so smart it would make my brain hurt :^) also, david wilcox's site is www.davidwilcox.com. it's a flash site with lots of music, just so you know--if your computer takes a while to load it, wait for it. also also, his song "Hold it up to the light"--while it is much overused by us christian types--has got to be one of the best folk songs of the past 20 years. speaking of which, brdfrd, i don't know what this means, but apparently much of his writing on that album (Big Horizon) came about after reading Paul Tillich. so, proof is always in the pudding, but it's good to know there's some theology going on in there. do you feel a brotherhood with him? i feel like Bono and i would be good friends :^) maybe you and David Wilcox?